@Duncan Sargent My command have just arrived, have yours?
Coming Products (a hopefully ongoing thread)
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personally since i'm going to have to wait till after summer to free up enough funds to get them*, i'm going to just focus on planning what to build. figuring i'll be getting one box of each to add to the 27 rhyflers i already have. not sure what i'll build from the specialists, but the extra bodies from the command sprues would let me field a third squad of rhyfler types, and with three boxes of extra bits to pick from i could do some interesting things.
*(i work for a school. no paychecks for the summer months, and with the way costs are going up, not a lot of leeway with the money saved up this year)
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friday update time..
we have two new sets shippin this month:
Crusader Specialists - May 16
Coftyran Specialists - May 16
and updated info on the upcoming sets..
Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold Finished)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Mold Finished)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (May 16/18)
Creevish Rhyflers (Tooling)
WAAQU013 Fidwog Specialists (Layout)
going ot be interesting to see when some of these get released.. are they going to delay the Chyweethl to release alongside the Ailthean, for example. or will they just move to a 1 kit a month, given all the other non-quar kits in the pipeline?
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@Mithril2098 I think headzombie said both tractors would be in June.
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I hope that we get something in June. I would not mind if the Western Arnyarans were out in June. I'd like to see one of their bigger tractors out in digital as well as the current one move to plastic soon as well.
Also just as a side note, how about a sheet of transfers to go on these vehicles?
Thanks.
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@pafbraed287 i guess if the tests of the Ailthean mold go well, they could meet that goal.
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weekly update time!
looks like the crusaders are still having a bit of production trouble with their tank.
but we have sightings of two new boxes... the creevish cavalry is on their way to aid their beleagered Rhyflers. and it looks like riderless Cadiers are coming with them.
Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold En Route to UK)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Mold Finished)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (May 16/18)
Creevish Rhyflers (Tooling)
WAAQU013 Fidwog Specialists (Tooling)
Creevish Cavalry (File Prep)
Cadiers (File Prep)
(i'm not sure why the Arnyaran mold is going to the UK, but i'm going to assume there is a valid reason for it)
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Can somone put some Orc heads of Quar modeles and post a pic of how they look? I guess 40K Orc heads would work best.
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@INSURGENT Skirmisher not the right thread for this question. i'd suggest you start a new thread in the modelling section about it, instead of trying to hijack an existing thread.
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Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold in UK)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Mold Finished)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (Molds Finished)
Creevish Rhyflers (Tooling)
WAAQUO13 Fidwog Specialists (Tooling)
Creevish Cavalry (File Prep)
Cadiers (File Prep)
So, I suspect Arnyarans in June, Tractors in July, Creevin in August, Fidwog Specialists (maybe with Command) in September, Creevish Cavalry and Cadiers in October if no further delays (aka Baron's War). Interesting how the Chyweethl says 'Mold' but Ailthean says 'Molds'.
Hehe, I stole Mithril's job!
Edit: ADHD acting up about how only the Fidwog Specialist have a kit designation, and still have it this far into production.
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i don't mind to theft, if you can get to it first.
as for the Chyweethl vs Ailthean thing.. the Chyweethl is so much smaller than the Ailthean, it is possible they were able to fit the entire tractor onto a single sprue? the Ailthean would pretty much have to be a minimum of 2 sprues given its size and complexity of shapes, one for the turret and one for the tread module. the treads section would need at least 2 parts (top/bottom) if not 3 or more (each tread plus the center bit), and the turret is big enough it would need to be in 2-4 pieces.
the Chyweethl on the otherhand could be done with fairly basic parts.. two treads, an upper hull and a lower hull. plus the gun barrel and crewman stuffed into the corners of the sprue.
if i'm right about all that though makes you wonder if the price will be the same, or if we'll get more Chyweethl's per box for the same price.
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@Mithril2098 Aww, you took all the fun out of it! Seriously though, I agree with you on it maybe being two Chyweethls to a box, as all Quar kits are £30, even if it may make more sense for them to be smaller and cheaper.
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if they keep the sprues to a minimum, you might end up with 2 of each to the box.. with the Chyweethl having two full sprues, and the Ailthean having 4.
the quar boxes have been all over the map in terms of sprue count, so who knows?
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@Mithril2098 Oh, nice, I'd love that. Personally, waiting for more news on the new 'Miner Wagon', since that seems likely to be Fidwog's plastic tractor.
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@Mithril2098 That would get me to buy it for non-Quar projects.
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in the interview the other day it was mentioned a new Clash of Rhyflers starter set was coming later this year, along with an updated starter rulebook and the full rules. and that it'll have a different set of factions involved.
personally i'm guessing that it'll be Arnyarans vs Creevin, given what we know is coming. not only is that a natural pairing for the lore, but both of those are coming to plastic soon. i just hope they update the old Crusader vs Coftyr starter set as well, and sell both.
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@Mithril2098 See, I doubt that. Just because the last starter showed WGA don't tend to use them as loss leaders, and since that'd be for two factions that'd already have infantry boxes, there'd be no reason not to just get those instead. I think it'd likely be Partisans v an undetermined other faction, since the Partisans are still on the pipeline, but not immediately, and I seriously doubt they'd be mass battle.
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Maybe Kryst Sandstalkers? Unlikely, I know, but it'd be fun, and they're a small scale squad warfare group of specialists who can be Royalist, Crusader or neutral.
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Got it from the horse's mouth, one tractor per kit.
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@pafbraed287 WGA has shown that they are willing to release the starter box alongside full boxes of the content figures. they did it whith the current Clash of Rhyflers (where the starter came out alongside full boxes of both crusaders and Coftyrans), and they did it with the barons War starter (releasing it alongside the boxes of foot knights, sergeants, and levy), and they're gearing up to do it again with the Guards of Traitors Toll starter alongside boxes of the guards and villagers (though in that case the starter is being officially marketed by the game's creators Grey For Now Games rather than via WGA directly)
given the timing mentioned in the interview, Western Arnyara vs Creevin is the pairing that makes the biggest sense, and would be the most comparable to the crusader vs coftyr pairing of the original set. since it is after all, just another starter for those same rules (only updated) the new set is probably more to draw attention to the game with variety (and thus attract buyers who already have the original)
as for partisans.. yeah we've been told they're coming, but with no mention of ETA from either headzombie or WGA. suggesting they're probably not coming any time soon. and we've gotten no mention of kryst coming to plastic at all, in fact the only mention we've gotten of them so far was when they did them as the first 3D scanned old metals to be offered as STl's.. because they weren't going to be revisted any time soon. odds are not until well after the compainion book to western iron drops.. and we've got no ETA on that beyond 'not any time soon"
with the Fidwog bringing in tractors (which are a bit above the starter rules complexity) and the Partisans likely to have a fair bit of complexity themselves because of their sheer variety of options (the result of getting access to guns from all the other factions), that obnly really leaves arnyara and creevin. and since arnyara creating the state of Aber after invading creevin is shaping up to be a big plot point for the lore, as big as the crusader invasion of coftyr was, it makes sense to focus on that.
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@Mithril2098 Yeah, I'd agree. It seemed from the interview like they're looking at the skirmish releases as laying the groundwork for the 28mm mass battle game launching a year down the road, which I would tend to think is best supported by Arnyara and Creevin.
IF we got a surprise new faction in plastic I tend to think it'd be Easky, since I'd guess they want to get all the Western Iron factions into plastic for the mass battle game. Could easily be that they're planning a launch box for that game too though.
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and as for the partisans not being 'mass battle suitable'.. the 'mass battle' rules aren't really all that big, just substaintially bigger than the skirmish rules. according to headzombie, the intent is basically for them to be built around the idea of feilding a company sized force.. so like, a command squad, several rhyfler squads, and a support squad or two, if doing a full infantry build. say 40-60 figures, with some vehicles. which is easily the size of a force that a village or small group of villages could turn out for their won defense. (it's about the size of the armed groups that the french, duthc, and polish resistances in WW2 turned out for example, when they stopped hiding and started fighting directly.)
and yeah, i'm expecting Easky to show up by the end of the year. they're a big player in the western hemisphere of alwyd, so they'd almost have to show up eventually. i just expect them to come alongside the mass battle rules, to be honest. since they're so heavily mechanized.
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@Mithril2098 Easky seems unlikely to be a skirmish faction since they're so mechanised. Then again, scout tractors could be cool!
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so weekly update: nothing new revealed, but looks like the Tractors are on schedule for next month after all.
Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold Complete)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Box Design)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (Box Design)
Creevish Rhyflers (July 6)
WAAQU013 Fidwog Specialists (July 14)
Creevish Cavalry (Layout)
Cadiers (Layout)
one non-quar thing that caught my eye is this one:
Bunker (Layout)
i don't think this was on previous weekly update lists. the fact that it doesn't carry an adjective like scifi or fantasy (especially as a "scifi terrain set" is mentioned later in the list) makes me wonder if it'll be a bit of generic terrain for historicals (especially ww1). which might find use for Quar.
at this point i think we can start speculating a bit on what new stuff will pop up in the list in the future. Fidwog Command seems probable, i'm honestly not sure why it isn't on the list already. followed by Creevish command. I'm expecting the Arnyarans to get their autocycles.. not only are they the easiest of the arnyaran stuff to fit into palstic, but they'll make a good counterpart to the Creevish cavalry. not sure if the arnyarans have command figures or specialists.
after that.. hopefully we'll see Easky.
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@Mithril2098 Hoping for Fidwog Command. I reckon I could see Warny Autocycles soon after Cavalry, then command for Fidwog, Creevin and maybe Arnyara. Then tractors (Miner Wagon!) and cavalry for more factions, also Easky at some point, likely a end of year surprise.
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I also wouldn't be surprised to see the Creevish and Arnyaran light tractors turn up at some point before next summer in plastic. They'll probably want to see how the first couple of plastic tractors land before putting them into the production pipeline, but Headzombie has talked in a few interviews at this point about Quar's War 2.0, and how they need to make sure that there are enough faction units to make a larger army reasonable from a collection perspective.
In practice it seems likely that might mean infantry section, command, light tractor, and either specialists or a unique faction unit (cav/autocycles) for each army.
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@Sparkly Miniatures Well, 3.0 now. I feel like, yeah, every Western Iron faction needs stuff to build a company (so Command, Infantry + Creevish Cavalry / WA Autocycles), plus tractor support and specialists for factions without them. Ideally, I'd live to see kites and more cavalry, but those can wait or be resin, as they aren't essential.
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More job theft!
Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold Complete)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Box Printing)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (Box Printing)
Creevish Rhyflers (July 6)
WAAQUO13 Fidwog Specialists (July 14)
Creevish Cavalry (Layout)
Cadiers (Layout)
The Fidwog Specialists 'WAAQUO13' is still bothering me.
Judging by this, I'd say Arnyarans this month, Chy + Ail July, Creevin Infantry (and maybe Fidwog Specialists if we're lucky) in August, and Cavalry the month after the Fidwog Specialists. After that... Maybe Fidwog Command, Daen-fen, Autocycles, Creevish Tractor (Mind Blank), Creevin + Arnyaran Command, and the Fidwog Miner Wagon.
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Also Easky. There's still Easky.
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actually tried to post it last night but i had login issues.
and i'd say the tractors are going to be out by the end of the month.. box printing is pretty much the last step before release.
not sure why WGA lists things in the order they do but 'mold complete' just means it'll be a month or two while they print out stocks of the sprues (both in the USA and england) and get the boxes printed for them.
so i'd say tractors this month, arnyarans in july, Creevish rhyflers and Fidwog specialists in august.
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@Mithril2098 Ok, sounds promising. Yeah, I was weirded out by the order too. Maybe one of the secret sets is the new starter?
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no real change to the Quar line up status this week. hopefully they announce the Tractors soon , if they want to get them out by the end of the month.
Western Arnyaran Infantry (Mold Complete)
Coftyran Chyweethl Tractor (Box Printing)
Crusader Ailthean Tractor (Box Printing)
Creevish Rhyflers (July 6)
WAAQU013 Fidwog Specialists (July 14)
Creevish Cavalry (Layout)
Cadiers (Layout)
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Yeah, given that they've pulled the resin Arnyaran rhyflers for sale at this point too it's starting to feel like the next few kits may come out all in a rush.
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This week looks like they've added Fidwog command in the layout stage but otherwise no changes.
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they've got a lot of non-Quar kits in the queue, and most of the quar stuff isn't slated to hit mold testing till later this summer, so not surprised we've not seen much new.
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Oh yeah, totally, and it seems like eveything is just chugging along on track.
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