With the relese of the awesome agent miniatures who would be up for aliens for them to combat? Lets give WGA some suggerstions.
What type would you like to see?
on the digital front, we have the hunter organisms, aka xenomorn't, who are GORGEOUS. I'd also love to see how wga does space orcs, preferably not like the current tropes. last one that could be fun is space dark elves that are more like the starfinder ones, aka blood fueled corporations rather than pirates.
@Dark Don The Grays hands down. They're an iconic alien archetype that doesn't really have much representation in the tabletop scene that isn't singular models or small packs.
I'd love a 24 model box of grays as some sort of antagonist for pulp era games. Question is what kind of grays will we go for? The little grey men in silver jumpsuits? Something like the sectoids from X-Com? The more monsterous type of Grey? What would also be cool is what different types of weapons they could have. While I admittedly prefer greys without jumpsuits (something closer to the Sectoids and rhe X-Files greys) I wouldn't mind jumpsuit greys if it allows for more customizability and variety. That or we could do something similar to Harvesters where the box contains two different types of greys.
if the 'dome head slavers' are meant to be a mars attacks style alien, i think you could probably combine them and the grey's into one set by just having a basic spacesuit type outfit and a collection of variant heads.
that said i think it would be dificult to actually give them transparent domes for their space suits., given WGA hasn't messed around with transparent plastic. though you could perhaps hint at the potential of such through adding a helmet ring/collar to the outfit, like on the mars attack suit above, or the fallout 'zetans' from FO4 and FO76.
though i suppose you could just have a solid dome for people to paint into an opaque glass look... like the fallout minis game's Zetan PA.
@Charles Tottington Mantic used to make a Mars Attack miniatures game, but they dropped that liscense years back and they became OOP. and reaper makes a couple of 'greys' style figures in metal and bones plastic, and the fallout game has zetans in plastic now. but agree that there isn't really a good affordable source for them.
@Mithril2098 Great idea! Options are always great in a model!
@timbus the thirteenth Honestly orcs and elves in space should just be human based LOTR larping nerds or the decendents of larper that got a little too creative with the DNA therapy.
@Brian Van De Walker I always figured on making orcs in space to be some sort of mutant ape man with the options of being either hairy or hairless if we want to go for the Warhammer/Classic Warcraft orc. But yeah, kind of like how Death Fields ogres and dwarves are genetically modified humans, I can see space orcs and space elves having the same origins.
But yeah, if I were brainstorming a box of greys that could also double as the Mars Attacks aliens, I may actually go for the Aztec approach, where you have three different types of bodies in a box of 30. Two for the jumpsuit and non-jumpsuit aliens, and the third body type being a larger and more heavily armored type kind of like what @Mithril2098 mentioned with the Fallout Zetans.
If I were to divide up how each of the three are kitted out. The jumpsuitless aliens are the ones that run around with alien pistols or even just their claws (think classical X-Com sectoids). While the classic jumpsuit aliens would have standard alien death rays and maybe the occasional heavier or specialized weaponry. Meanwhile the ones in the mini-mechs (probably big enough to either fit on 32mm or 40mm bases) are the ones packing the big guns.
One thing I just realized, we've probably got to consider whether we want to include psychic greys/martians in the proposed set or have them be their own induvidual set of grey/martian commanders representing the three proposed body types. Alien Leaders would probably best serve as their own induvidual set you can purchase separately if you want to run a full scale alien invasion.
i'd personally suggest that if you go the minimech route, you make it fit on a 25mm (if only just) to simplify the basing. just go for more of a 'tall' rather than 'bulky' look perhaps with emphasis more on extending limb length.
or go down the 'genetically engineered' route and instead just have an extra tall 'grey', like how Xcom2 redesigned the sectoid into a more human form predatory thing instead of the little cannonfodder they were in Xcom1. (you could even have a bit of fun there if you stick a basic 'harness' on the torsos where accessories could be hung even for the 'naked' ones.. on the big ones you could include a 'backpack' thats just one of the smaller ones riding master/blaster style. which might be a fun way to use up some extra arms and heads.)
another alternative could just be a robot drone of some kind.
Greys are fun and all but I have always thought Xenomorph style aliens but as invaders with guns and melee weapons (like axes) would be cool. Like they could give them a whole race history with 1 team where the troop types are divided between beast like primals, iron age melee weapon and armored "medievals", and of course cybernetic blaster armed "currents".
no reason you couldn't do a set of biomechanical aliens as well. do it right, and maybe you could even combine them as a facrtion, like the aliens from the Independance Day films, where 'Greys' style aliens used a slightly xenomorph like alien species as biological minimecha. or how in Xcom the alien invasion has multiple species all working for the same overlord.
@Brian Van De Walker For orcs I was picturing mutant war of the roses knights, but honestly I like your idea better. Maybe the einharjar have a bunch of random modern neopagans running around with them too!
@Mithril2098 Biomechanical weirdos could be super fun, especially since it's been shown the death fields' sponsors are quite willing to do modifications on their teams. If WGA was willing to get really out there, perhaps they could take inspiration from modern body horror, such as All Tomorrows or the Electric State. After all, the aliens don't need to be truly aliens, they could just be humans subject to the Ship of Theseus until they're unrecognizable.
@timbus the thirteenth LOL those neo-pagans would be more confused goofball than some Yu-Gi-Oh monster in thier own top 10 back storys I have been bing watching on youtube, WA should totally do/not do it in the lore🤣. The only issue I have is how do we know the einharjar didn't just become retroactivily Christian or Atheist after you know finding out thier gods where just Alien reality TV producers?
@Mithril2098 Biomechanical mech suits kinda of sounds like a tough theme to pull off in 28mm models to me but I am welling to be proved wrong.
@Brian Van De Walker Gates of Antares by Warlord has these guys, which have a sorta biomechanical vibe. Maybe full mechsuits wouldn't be possible, but weird combinations of harvester organisms and technology could go pretty hard.
An update to the death fields alien scene: a digital kit just released that's elves in space!! AND THEY LOOK GREAT!!!!!!
seriously, I hope these guys make the transition to plastic eventually, cause I'd start a whole army of em. not hugely fond of the kinda hunched-over poses or the human grenades/pouches, but I'm praying they make the hop eventually. hopefully this also means the powers that be keep an eye on the ideas that float around here as well.
also, on a separate note: serious props to the whoever is doing the digital designs, cause they've been knocking it out of the park lately. even as a plastic-only peasant i've started kinda looking forward to all the new kits popping up.
@Brian Van De Walker now, maybe im just an old fart who hails to the king too hard, but I would love to see sci-fi pig style orcs... pig police, they might be called... ;) I've had a dream of duke nukem pig cops in plastic for so long
@timbus the thirteenth Should not have bothered making them aliens (elves as aliens is a dumber trope than having halflings in space), unless these "alien elves" are from a biotech heavy race that did "gentic manipulation and body rebuilding" as a form of fashion and had a heavy LOTR fanbase some how😆.
@Kyle Platek If they are actual pigs that have been reengineered as warriors I am cool with that, but the realistic alien is not going to look like anything you would find on Earth or it will be slime molds.
@Brian Van De Walker Ah shit you're right, my space elves that fight kidnapped napoleonic soldiers in a gladiatorial immortality arena in space might just start to be unrealistic. Can't have that.
@Kyle Platek Didn't expect to see the duke around here. pig cops could go crazy.
the spectators STLs and the cannonfodder STLs from WGAdigital shows a mix of mostly humanoid but clearly not human aliens. as well as a lot of regular humans or (potentially) "weird color humans' in the stands. gives me a bit of a star wars vibe, to be honest.
@Brian Van De Walker
honestly was thinking along the lines of the alien biosuits seen in Independance day. you'd do the kit for say, an ogre sized alien monster, and just design it so part of the torso is a seperate piece. (perhaps using something like the Quar torsos where you have a front panel to glue on.
then also release a halfling sized alien type, which in its sprue includes a replacement panel for the big aliens that shows a 'cockpit' with one of the smaller aliens included.
or maybe
@timbus the thirteenth hmm, fair point, but now its no longer SciFi to me , its just scifi fantasy and its still a boring trope to pull as far as story lines go😆.
@Mithril2098 Yeah those would have been cool.
Give me VSF aliens or give me death!
There's so much humanoid stuff out there, and just about every "insect" alien is just a big dumb bug. Variations of ants, wasps, spiders, etc. is getting kinda of overdone. The Greys- while iconic- are just humanoid aliens. <Yawn> Space Elves? Everyone has done that. Space Orks? Also already done. Simple (would likely sell), but again- overdone.
I'd like to see something a little more unique (or old school) like the arachnids from Heinlein's Starship Troopers. Technologically sophisticated bugs with lasers, body armor, and attitude.
A technologically sophisticated "bug" army would be something to behold. Put them in powered amor to boot just to make things even MORE terrifying. They needn't be "barbaric," they could be the exact opposite. You could have elegantly armored space bugs- beautiful powered armor bug centaurs with high tech ranged weapons and monofilament knives. Something that would give a company of the old UAMC Hardsuits loads of trouble.
In short- GIVE ME SOMETHING TO SHOOT!!!!
Jumping into the thread to say space ratmen. Veer-myn exist, but they are not great for kitbashing for wargames orher than mantic games' stuff.
@Battle Specter "smart" bugs should be on the way, in the form of the bug guys from 2400 AD. at least i hope that's still happening, because the release schedule is gone, but whatever.
one of the recent teasers were a group of lobster aliens. which have been cinfirmed as part fo the VSF project.
