Howdy guys, now that we have troopers how about vehicles, and even more spectacular Leviathans. They used to make the best titan on the market, way better than the GW titans, and actually bigger than a knight titan. It would be a huge seller if you resurrected that model.
I know I would buy at least two of them but probably more, as I have room in several armies for these. They would fit perfectly in a Greyknights army, any Space Marine army, my Rogue Trader army (especially because I proxied the Valkir heavies for marines in that force). This was the penultimate model from dreamforge, although they also had really nice vehicles. Anyone else like to see these produced again?
I can't find it, but I saw subtle foreshadowing on WA/Legion Facebook. And personally, after researching Iron-Core I deeply miss this vehicle...
I feel like they may be a bit big, especially since WGA is only starting to dip their toes into vehicles with The Damned / Quar Tractors, but Hudson only knows. Me personally, I'd love to see Shadowkesh Walkers / Sokesh.
Yeah, Eisenkern APC was a different story. From old reviews it feels like some A+ replica of existing vehicle with incredible amount of detail. I wouldn't mind something simpler, but yeah.
Do Shadowkesh Walker existed, or it's just some concept? Could you show?
@Drangir I have no clue, I've only just discovered the universe. It's mentioned in the fluff as the thing which inspired/motivated the Leviathan, so could be cool as Eisenkarn and Valkir Shadowkesh seem to be the two main factions.
Valkir is Eisenkern elites, from the fluff I've got that Sokesh and Eisenkern are the main focus. Former being some kind of high tech beings treating humans as inconvinience and Eisenker trying to get noticed by stopping their colonisation attempt. It's just a bit I've read - could be totally different from what I know.
I've seen some old models and feral version of them (it's bit weird idea, but ok, why not?), and damn - it beats most xenos designs from General Worldbuilder easily. Like with Eisenkern, they're kinda pulp, but detailed and far enough from their inspiration to feel their own thing. Not to mention the idea of aliens so advanced it took a while until they've noticed humanity, I love this XD
@Drangir Yeah, I love Shadowkesh. The fluff, the design, they're all so darn cool. I'm tempted to get a box of the upcoming Warriors and paint 'em purple. I could call them a group which got seperated from the main territory while expanding and has formed their own Kesh in Eisenkern space.
To be honest, as neat as the Leviathan walkers looked? I think that a better choice would be to take the look and make something smaller, more like GWs Armiger or large Dreadnaught models in size. That would make them useful for way more rulesets, plus keep the price at more reasonable levels. The Leviathans were already expensive, with how prices have gone up since then, the original size would fall into "you got to be kidding" levels. And it isn't like many games use vehicles of such size. Basically just 40k, really.
@Mithril2098 You're probably right to be honest. Bigger vehicles tend to be over-priced cash wise, and either ridiculously strong or likewisely weak in game.
@Mithril2098 Actually given the number of sprues it had plus overall quality of the kit and compared to GW's offerings and even some of the 1/48 Bandai mecha kits of the same size, the Leviathians where reasonable (particularly when they went on sale for $50 or $60, then they were steal😆), and originally Mark had planned on making a ruleset for ironcore which would have justified it all but discovered it would have cost too much to print that book🤣.
(There really needs to be more good minis agnostic 28mm scifi ruleset with a "fast and simple" vehicle state builder).
That said for mechs with 28mm-32mm wargaming in mind, your right while the big ones look awesome and the Leviathians where cool kits, I think the practical mech for that scale on the table top is something roughly as tall as the GW sentials where the driver's cockpit is in the chest instead of head. I.E a light mech should be the "go to" mech setup for 28mm-32mm gaming period, (you want Heavy Gears at that size not Battletech mechs).
I have these 1/48 VOTOMS kits that are rather small compared to a Dreamforge Leviathian, but look perfect next Ironcore or DeathFields figures, and I get the feeling those are going to get the more gaming use than my Leviathian.
That said a big part of the lore for Ironcore was the massive vehicals. I am going to say it again Mark should have gone the model kit route and tried to sell the setting and models to someone like Tamiya or Bandai. If WA does them, they should consider branching the marketing out the wargame hobby and into the wider realm of model kit building.
