Female Landsknechts
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You know what I want out of life?
28mm plastic female Landsknechts. That's right, I want REGIMENTS of them to build an army with.
There's not much cooler than a Landsknecht:
Except you know, this:
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Need some female Landsknechts right now?!?
Here's what I found:
Hasslefree:
Wargames Game Studio "Hot and Dangerous":
Village Hope on Etsey:
Raging Heroes:
And:
Anybody know more?
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Not quite gaudy enough for a Landsknecht. But this is a beautiful mini I picked up for Mordheim.
Wouldn't look bad with WGA Conquistadors either.
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Reaper bones 5 had a female landsknecht. She is not available retail yet but you can occasionally finder her on eBay.
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@William Redford
While your listing close.... but not actually good.
The Mantic female Regiment. Wanted to like it. Couldn't.
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@JTam
Well I did hear that there where real female Landsknechts from female reenactor once, but it did sound an awful lot like modern revisionist history. I do know that there where wives of landsknechts that did do “dangerous violent jobs” things from time to time like loot the battlefield and defend the camp, but I think it was exceedingly rare for them to pick up a pike and two handed sword, frankly they seemed more like frying pan and dagger type fighters.
Also given we have Landsknechts Ogres coming, why wouldn’t female Landsknechts be a classic fantasy thing? Same deal with shield Maidens while we are at it, who in real life would have been farm girls with some combat training and probably not show up alot.
Though I will admit I would rather have regular platemail female knights in skirts first:
Frankly the best “Warrior maiden as Warrior maiden” sets that make sense for history are either Lady Scythians, other steppe archer women, and Samurai women.
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By sheer chance, a pal of mine provided me with a 3D printed, flexible resin, female Landsknecht - as a printing test.
I'm definitely for a female Landsknechts kit.
Even though their historicity might be debatable.
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@Blutze @lauregami
Hmm you both actually bring up a point that I have been somewhat waiting to discuss. I well answer the easy thing first, unarmored female landsknechts if real would probably dress very differently from their male counterparts with long skirts and probably be like the ladies in these pic except gaudier if possible (remember landsknechts where allowed to dress however they wanted) and with the weapons and sword belts, maybe they would wear the hats:
Now with that out of the way, in general when it comes to plate armor, particularly full plate armor some outspoken historians and hobbyists (both in wargaming and the reenactor community) would argue heavily that there would be no difference in appearance since boob plate kills, men and woman have the same body proportions, etc. .
However there are some very real world issues with these arguments:
A: females in plate armor are not really a big thing in European history (ie, they likely where not even 1% to 3% of the armored individuals on the battlefield and more around a 0.9% to 0.1%) and would likely have worn armor borrowed from a male relative as opposed to armor made for them and possibly be hiding their gender (meaning real European historical examples are not really a good argument in this case, not even for headswaps, just use enclosed helms if you want to be historical).
B: medieval and Renaissance armor smiths where probably more like tailors and not likely to be the masters of scientific safety methods they are today and accounts of some historical battles made this really clear. Plate armor was just as likely to be a knights doom as his salvation half the time, and it wasn’t always just from drowning in puddles because you can’t get up in heavy armor, an awful lot of it was just shoddy in real life. Add to this that patent laws didn’t really exist till fairly late, meaning smiths probably didn’t willing share armor making knowledge except maybe with their apprentices, and you get some big questions on how real world female knights would have looked (and it really is a would have).
C: Men and women don’t actually have the same body proportions in real life on average. Modern ballistic armor made for males actually chaffs enough women that the USA’s military at least has developed female body armor.
D: A good number of female reenactor apparently wear these under their historical armor to protect themselves ( I think there is even diffrent sizes but I could be wrong on that):
E: Meanwhile in ancient India you have this, and no I am not sure if it is combat armor or ritual (I would assume the later but this did come up when I searched "ancient Indian women warriors in armor") :
Oh, and in both cases since we are talking women there wouldn’t be these:
So yeah… given all that armored female minis should look different for fantasy settings where female knights would be common (Maybe they wouldn't have double boobplate but I could see a uniboob plate and they would likely be smaller on average) and there isn't a real good reason to just do them as headswaps in a history set unless you really like the idea of girls wearing codpieces for some reason🤣.
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Found an example of a Hot and Dangerous female Landsknecht painted up on Facebook:
For that matter the Hot and Dangerous "Anno Domini" and "Conquistador" model aren't terrible fits for an Landsknechts Officer and handgunner. Although I don't know what to think of the handgunner's helmet.
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@JTam
On their FB page someone posted this:
"If You wonder about helmet it is based on Juan de Borgoña paintings made in 1514 showing conquest of Oran. Cortez started his conqest of Cuba in 1511 and Mexico in 1519, so about the same time. Many miniatures of conquistadors are of time - they show Spanish army from 1580 or so."
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@William Redford
Great stuff.
Very informative on the Conquistador helmet. Thanks for posting the painting.
I had a feeling the Conquistador helmet might have been based on a historical example. On subjects where I have a good enough grounding to be able to judge, I find the Hot and Dangerous minis to be well researched and surprisingly accurate.
The Anno Domino cross over is cool. They also had the FJ Dust 47 cross over mini:
(Pretty accurate kit and equipment. Actually pretty much everything is dead on minus the exaggerated heels. Yes, even the bone sack worn as a onesie is accurate.)
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@Brian Van De Walker Well, they definitely advertise them as 28mm. They have 2 official sizes, 28mm and 54mm. Now they also call their Anno Domini 28mm. And said during the KS that the pistol chick would match the Anno Domini size.
Here are some Reaper minis (the black one is Bones, and the 2 blonde girls are metal), some Anno Domini (the light blue ones), a WA conquistador, and several Hot and Dangerous girls. Now even amongst themselves some are taller than others. None look out of place next to the reaper minis (that are listed as heroic 28mm). But all are larger than the Anno Domini and Wargames atlantic minis. The WA and the Anno Domini look good next to each other.
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Found these:
Can't really describe them as my cup of tea though.
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Do believe I'll be ordering some of these:
One new regiment of Halberdiers coming up. Wonder if it's possible to get them ranked up on 20mm square bases?
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@Alessio De Carolis
Is that (Ladies of Mandrigyn) a decent read?
I popped over to the Wiki:
White Dwarf reviewing external publications. Different times.
I think the "experimental archeology" has found Halberds pretty much the king of hand held weapons for just about everybody.
That being said experimental archeology has some huge limitations / is not the end all and be all.
I was thinking about it the other day and say you rebuilt the bicycle and were discovering what it could do. You'd probably conclude one can travel 50 miles a day on roads, traverse moderately uneven terrain, and turn in X radius. That's what I can do in a bike anyway. And that's the level of proficiency I would argue a hobbist can ever hope on obtain. But what can people who devote their lives to it can do? They do a 100 miles a day in the big bike races. Look at the terrain mountain bikers navigate. Look at the insane jumps and tricks stunt bicyclists can do. I would argue that people who lived and died by the sword/bow/halberd/chariot reached similar levels of extreme proficiency.
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