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Nobles 16th - 19th - 41st century.

  • Willdunn3cr

    First time caller, long time lurker.

    Straight up I've been lucky to find game makers, miniature makers and content creators that understand that the hobby is about being loose with rules and the purpose of plastic kits.

    I've recently just picked up the rules and cards for 02 Hundred Hours and Guards of Traitors Toll.

    However I still would like to play those games in the warhammer universe and have a specific kits available that may help assemble characters whilst having broad appeal to historics.

    So I'm asking for consideration that Wargames Atlantic make a Nobles Kit.

    A Multi-part nobles kit covering the 16th - 19th century would be so useful for not only games set in those time but for inquisitors, rogue traders and highborn in the grimdark future.

    I'm talking Ruff collars, powder wigs, corsets with bell dresses, mutton chops, cigarette stick extenders, those glasses, binoculars, masquerade masks. Let's not forget expressions of distain and faux delight.

    I reckon this is a home run!

     

  • timbus the thirteenth

    I'm all for the idea, at least in theory, but I feel like a good chunk of the kit is already covered? Between the conquistadors and fantasy npcs, theres plenty of "nobility" kits. an explicitly sci-fi or steampunk one could have some wings, though. I feel like I distantly remember talks about a victorian sci-fi line, but maybe that was just marcher? idk. definitely a cool idea, but needs a little more oomph.

  • M

    also even just looking at the historical side, that 300 year range covers a multitude of wildly different sets of high society fashion. even ignoring the fact that most historical wargames aren't going to have need of high society types in their regular clothing (as opposed to the armor or uniforms they'd wear for a military campaign), you'd still need to narrow the time range down a lot to get a useful kit.

    personally i think that historical kits are the wrong line for this. i think that you'd get more use putting a "high society" kit into the fantasy line, especially the Guards of Traitors Toll line. since that game is one of urban policing, you'd be more likely to see lesser nobility and wealthier merchants in fancy outfits show up, and since it is fantasy you can have a mix of otherwise anachronistic styles. and they'd fit in alongside the current townsfolk sets. you'd have to convert them to scifi yourself, but that can be largely handled through adding scifi bits or some head or limb swaps.

  • Yronimos Whateley

    I don't actually do any Warhammer gaming and don't know the lore, so take me with a grain of salt, but it seems to me that an elaboration on the Digital Atlantic Traditional Vampires set is surely just about perfect for this sort of thing. 

    Maybe Wargames Atlantic would be so kind as to produce a hard plastic version in time for Halloween this year, in much the same way they did for the zombies last year?  (I'd love to see them make a tradition of releasing horror-themed sets on Halloween, even if it can't be a yearly thing!)

    And let's face it:  in both Real Life and fantasy, the aristocracy are pretty much vampires anyway.....  I think I'd be happy with a hard plastic box that focuses on, say, three or four variations of the male traditoinal "Dracula" costume, and one or two variations on the female dress, with a variety of heads ranging from human, to dark elf, to fang-bearing vampire, to feral ghoul.  Include maybe some fancy rapiers, daggers, and black-powder pistols, along with a couple grimoirs, wands, staves, and other evil spell-caster bits to round out the kit (seems to me that the traditional vampire was always more of an evil sorceror than melee fighter!)

    A set like that could cover a little ground beyond just fantasy nobels, then, including elf aristocracy, vampires, and more.  

  • timbus the thirteenth

    It's a shame, I feel like some of WGA's most unique and interesting designs are stuck in the realm of digital. Obviously I could just learn to work with resin, but it certainly feels like everybody on this forum has at least one digital kit that they're completely obsessed with and want to have in plastic, lol. At least there's a bit of a precedent for halloween-themed sculpts coming to plastic. my beloved cultists might be stuck in digital forever...

  • BV

    @Willdunn3cr umm, 16th century nobles dressed very diffrently from 19th century nobles, same deal with those inbetween, and there was fasion diffrences for each nation as well (and let GW make its own niche civilian minis😆, particularly since 28mm historical scale figures tend to look out of place next to 32mm heroic for most people🤣).

    That said I would say the Vampires and while we are at vampire hunters if done right would cover this more or less (particularly if they went Castlevainia style with  it).

  • Willdunn3cr

    @Yronimos Whateley @Yronimos Whateley 

    Yeah I think your correct; the kit has legs to be a jumping off point for fantasy kitbashing rather than trying to accommodate for historics.

    I'm biased because I prefer the heroic scale of Death Fields range along with North Star + older GW kits. But it makes the most sense for WA to make a nobles kit inline with their Villagers and Guards sets in scale.

    I really just want a kit of BROAD nobles / aristocrates options from Elizabethan to Victorian times. Some fantasy head options for Elves and vampires goes well that theme.

    However being able to make a few nobles for Late Medieval, Renaissance  and nepolionics games with the one box would make it truly versatile.

  • Yronimos Whateley

    @timbus the thirteenth "It's a shame, I feel like some of WGA's most unique and interesting designs are stuck in the realm of digital. Obviously I could just learn to work with resin, but it certainly feels like everybody on this forum has at least one digital kit that they're completely obsessed with and want to have in plastic, lol. At least there's a bit of a precedent for halloween-themed sculpts coming to plastic. my beloved cultists might be stuck in digital forever..."

     

    Yeah, at this point, I think there are several digital sets that I'd love to see developed into full-blown plastic kits, including:

     

    (Seems to me there might actually be several years worth of Halloween Horror sets there, now that I see this in list form, between the cultists, vampires and "gargoyles", priests and vampire hunters, mummies, and aliens!  Some suggestions for more horror sets might include devils, possessed "Deadites", Lovecraftian ghouls and Deep One fish-men, scarecrows, undead "death knights", 20's/30's pulp detectives/investigators, "Forbidden Psalm" and "Endless Horrors" themed sets....) 

  • Yronimos Whateley

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    With that in mind, the Digital catalogue also includes a wonderful "Committee of Public Safety" set (which really ought to be moved from "Napoleonic Conquests" to "Age of Reason", I think) that would work for me as corrupt and decadent aristrocrats, though in its current form it's a bit one-dimensional, entirely male figures with no head or arm options - easily fixed with a bit more development, and again, it could use some vampire/ghoul and dark elf options.

     

    Some normal human heads should, of course, be included for such figures, but for some reason, this sort of costume always make me think of a powdered-wig and frock-coat edition of figures from something Francisco Goya might have painted on a bad day, but in the best possible way:




    [Insert here the accumulated degradations of a few generations of the worst things left to the imagination by A Picture of Dorian Gray and Doctor Jeckyll and Mister Hyde]

    Q:  "...good Lord!  What do you call such an abominable performance???"

    A:  "'The Aristrocrats!'"

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