Rob is hard at work on a Command frame for the Samurai. What would you like to be included?
Next for Samurai range
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Takio Drums, Canvas wall, Famous commanders and Daimyo (had unique armor and helmets) with one or more of them setting, severed head display, lots of banners/flags,
If you want to add baggage beyond rice barrels and ammo crates, I would add a small line of enslaved peasants (from the other side) being dragged off to build castles till they die or to be sold to Portuguese.
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What is a realistic release date for the command frame and please put some sashimono and banners in it
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@Paul Evans we won't announce a date until the frame is in tooling or thereabouts. Not long though.
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I would say:
- Unit Command (Leader, Bannerbearer, Musician)
- Daimyos
- Named Characters like Oda Nobunaga and Co
- Retainers and Servants
- Ninjas
- Western and Chinese Advisers
- Tent Walls for Command Posts and Sitting Officers.
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Some more cav unless you are doing a cav sprue
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Other nice Sets would be;
- Late Sengoku Period Samurai with Westernized Equipment (Cuirass, Western Muskets ect.)
- Ikko Ikki
- Siege Weapons
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@Steffen Seitter Actually if we are still talking the late Sengoku era, they would have used Japanese made matchlocks which were better made and designed than western made matchlocks of the time (there is a reason they had 300 peace without interference).
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I would love to see a pack of mixed Ronin. Say fifty Ronin swordsmen, fifty Ronin Archers, 50 Ronin horse. Then to round out the pack 50 monks and 20 civilians.
I am a big fan of the board game Shogun (also sold as Swords of the Samurai), and I am contemplating using Shogun as the campaign setting, and whenever it calls for a battle, use the army cards as a guide to how to structure the armies. Each miniature on the army card being a unit in battle. It would take weeks to play out a campaign, but would include dozens of battles and very easy to go between the campaign map to the battle field. This would combine Warmaster Revolution (to play out the battles), Shogun (as the campaign map to track the movement of Armies, and location the of Fortifications), and Wargames Atlantics miniatures to play out the Warmasrer battles.
This would be a very engaging campaign to determine who becomes Shogun.
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I'm against historical individuals as that would lead to a fair amount of waste plastic on the frame after painting up the first Oda Nobunaga and so forth.
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I was going to suggest War Fans for the Command Sprue, but I see they've already done those.
In terms of other sprues, Mounted Samurai with Bows would be a nice addition.
Maybe some kind of "Mercenary" sprue with a selection of Ninjas and Ronin on it, since these 2 don't feel like they'd have enough stuff individually to make separate sprues.
Wokou Pirates would be an interesting sprue to see (it'd tie in quite well with the various Chinese and Korean suggestions people have posted), but it would be a difficult sprue to mesh with the "Grand Battles" scale.
For Historical Characters, that would probably be a 1-and-done kit, since having multiple Oda Nobunaga on the field at once doesn't really work.
Finally, I think a Peasant/Villager sprue (similar design to these ones on Atlantic Digital maybe) would be a nice addition to the range, but like the Wokou they might not entirely fit with the scale of the battle.
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@Jim Heath depends on how they sell them, if its a whole box of just that character sprue your right, if its one figure on a main sprue with stuff you need hundereds of, its a minor issue at most since you can always reuse that figure as statues in other games. If its by the sprue and just characters, no issues at all.
@Indy Techwisp Yeah peasents would be a good idea, it doesn't need to be just levie poses at 10mm and I can see that done as plastic sprue depending on what they added to it. (levie, baggage train or a small terrian building).
Wokou Pirates would be great since that topic opens up the field to everything from the Koreans in the north to the Trịnh–Nguyễn Civil War to even the war between the Spanish and Islamic Blackpowder Empires fighting over the Philippines.
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I like to see Wargames Atlantic just get the Japanese range right. Need a box of cavalry with the various arms and the horo that could be attached or glued seperately. The horse pose in the samurai box that has the two back legs flung in the air looks ridiculous and belongs in a rodeo diagrama. Please, no more horse poses like that one, it is a waste.
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@Steven James live a little!
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@Steven James No, Hudson has point that is how horses run.
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Glad I saw this thread, I was about to hit order on my Samurai army and would be terribly bummed out if this got released right after! Any word on when it will be out?
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@Rob Chapman Painter is wrapping up now, box illustration is finished by Marco Capparoni, and just have to send it to the printer once put together. Should be seeing them in short order! Keep an eye on our Friday email - at the bottom we list everything that's coming (mostly) and where it is in the schedule.
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@Hudson Adams excellent news! Thanks for the reply.
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What I'd like to see next:
Ikko Ikki, peasants, and sohei monks (with naginata, teppo, yumi), ronin, more samurai cavalry, possibly more samurai (units of naginata, yumi, and yari separately would be nice), artillery, Sohei / Ikko Ikki leader, and eventually, opposing forces for the Imjin War. Oh, and personalities for the various generals (maybe using 3D to do them, as a set?)
Are there currently any plans for more stuff for this range? If so, could you tell us more, and give a rough estimate (say "mid 2026 at the earliest") for when we can expect them?
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@Nick The Lemming Hmm, actually maybe they should start with the Koreans and Ming first, then do "Japanese pirates" of the time since all of those would work great with the other 10mm sets as well in a fantasy context since that seems to be the current focus.
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I also would like to see peasants and monks
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Now that command has been out for some time and that the Heiho game box is close to release, I would comment on what I want next.
- Ikko ikki can make their own box with similar configurations as the ashigaru and the samurai.
- I asume Koreans can follow, but I don't know if Pauli's Heiho ruleset already covers anything outside of samurai vs samurai.
- I don't thik there would be something as specific as ninjas, samurai with western equipment... as those should be just a few miniatures, and that size does not fit the type of boxes produced for this scale.
- I'd love to have a "fantasy" supplement for the game, adding maybe creatures, magic, more fantasy-like ninjas... and then a box or two for those additions. With that, I can turn Sengoku Jidai into Legend of the Five Rings' Emerald Empire of Rokugan.
Also, can the boxes include the bases from now on? Either that or suggestions on how many of each size can be built with each box, so we can add the bases accordingly.
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@Nick The Lemming totally agree, would love to see more samurai units, especially teppo. Maybe including some single units with Ō-Zetsu hand cannons in that set. More naginata units, Artillery would be brilliant and sohei monks and ronin (as you can add them both to your samurai army as mercanaries). Anything to really expand the core Japanese army would be really exciting to me.
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