Boycott


  • Hello everyone,

    Years ago, I learned that Wargames Atlantic was going to manufacture plastic miniatures in the Unites States of America. This was a wonderful development, and I told everyone in my gaming community and every gaming store in my area that that they should buy Wargames Atlantic products and support this company.

    I am Canadian.

    I know this is not a political forum and I ask your pardon, but your President is hurting us. 

    I will not buy any product of the USA until this ends. 

     



  • that is your choice, obviously. but please understand. we are his victims as well. the majority of us did not vote for him. the majority of us do not support him. we are just as worried about it as you are. Wargames Atlantic has no connection to this administration, so please do not tar all of us with the same brush you use for him.


  • Uh, it's a tough choice, but I find it understandable and fair, unfortunately, especially if you're from Canada.
    On the other hand, WA never turned a blind eye to tough events in the close past (even to ones lose), so I hope it's understood from both sides.


  • Allan,

    As a fellow Canadian, I understand your choice, and I support it. Good for you.

    I do question the need to trumpet it to the world - Especially in this forum. You have not targeted Wargames Atlantic, indeed you say 'I will not buy any product of the USA until this ends.'

    So, despite it being a non-political forum, and despite Wargames Atlantic not having any ability to 'end' this, you have made a rather virtue-signaling, political post.

    This is not the place. Do better.

     


  • @Timothy Peterson I agree, political statments should be done in non-industry enviorments like FB groups that are not tied to a corporation, they gain more traction there and are actually better places for open dialogue on the topic.

    Now if this had been  about boycotting WA over not getting more out on the Warring States Chinese, that would be a diffrent story (though that would not be a very effective way to get what you want in that case🤣 it would at least get a good convo going).


  • Don't know why it's necessary to tell an entire company that you won't buy anything American because "Orange Man Bad!"

    Like, seriously, there is a lot of hysteria over all this and a lot of fearmongering on both sides. This is NOT the type of forum for this kind of stuff.

    It's coming off more like you're trying to shame WGA for being based in America even though they have little to no say in political matters.

    It's like what Timothy said, this is not the place for politics. We're here to discuss miniatures, sci-fi, history, and fantasy. Not virtue signal about how the president is somehow Hitler reincarnate.


  • https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/canadian-dollar-pricing-now-live

    I'd consider this as a fair move from WA in this case!


  • @Mithril2098 Time the USA went back to being a respected member of the UN?

    You should write to your senator, expressing your thoughts politely.

    (I have deliberately not mentioned a certain person (you know who) so that this post is not deleted 😉)


  • @von Klinkerhoffen unfortunately given where i live, my senators are part of the problem.

    i didn't vote for them either.


  • I'm sure OP will be pleased to know that, as a Canadian, the WA products sold there will now be being produced in the UK instead.


  • @Mithril2098 May still be worth contacting them (email) to express your disappointment, or contact an opposition Senator? (Again I have been deliberately vague so as not to hijack this).


  • @von KlinkerhoffenSigh, it really is not worth it, and given my recent visit to my local “brick and mortar” store where I found that the prices on foreign goods have not only stayed the same but even lowered in some cases possibly not even necessary.  I recently picked up an Italian made 1/56 tank kit that was normally $33.50 for $26.80 which looked like a permanent price change, I checked other items in there same thing and by the way it seems to be the same deal for other stores, non-hobby ones, that I have visited (so either the tariffs are doing nothing noticeable on most good or deflation is nullifying them).

    Frankly I think instead of shipping molds back and forth across the Atlantic which has got to be costing a mint, what WA should do is just hire a full time tariff/tax lawyer to navigate things unless they have already and this is the best advice they could give. (Frankly every hobby company should have a full time tariff/tax lawyer just to deal with UK and EU foreign goods taxes, not to mention my home state’s foreign goods taxes).

      To be honest though I think this “tariff madness” is more likely to be much ado about nothing.  You all need to stop listening to random journalists (and politicians while we are at it), till you learn to think for yourself first and focus on your actual surroundings to see if what they say actually matches up with the reality on the street. I have taken journalism classes and guess what journalists are not there to inform you, but to tell you what to think and feel (it’s how they are trained). Frankly they are non-government spies at best so you should be very skeptical of what journalist says even if you agree with them, in fact particularly if you agree with them since they never have the budget to actually do decent research. Heck, currently journalistic fearmongering seems to be the real main cause of economic uncertainty in the US not Orange man and his dinky tariffs and other policies.

    However if you’re really bugged about it, write your own government about settling with the US fully and start buying American after local made where it makes sense for you to do so since Biden* and Trump only started these tariffslikely due to outstanding trade deficits the USA has had predominately with Asian and European nations for decades now. If there had been few or no trade deficits between the US and other nations in the first place, there would likely be no across board US tariffs on foreign goods think on that for moment.

    You could also write my governor Mr. Newsom, and ask him about removing California’s trade taxes on “foreign goods”**, which has probably been harming merchants both abroad and from other US states just as much the Trump tariffs if not more (certainly not helping local merchants on the supply end). He does not listen to us CA voters on issues, but he did clean up San Fresco for Xi Ping so maybe he will listen to a fellow from Europe.

     

    *(Yes they both installed tariffs at least with regards to China).

    **(Yes California tariffs products from other US states and nations in general, and I doubt they are the only state that does that).


  • They already have shipping operating well from GB, so why would they try to stop it? They've planned the expansion long before this shift, so speaking about tax/customs lawyers doesn't make much sense in the context.

    Also, no matter if it was after or before the current changes (for example, Canada situation isn't just some journalist yapping), the GB and Aus distribution makes WA minis available easily. They offer much better prices than many GB counterparts, I'd never touch their products if they'd need be shipped from US. 
    Not from any angst or anything, it's just slow and expensive. There's too much competition on the market.

    Having two bases makes it easier on them with sudden surges of sales (Barons preorder?) and builds two professional crews with different backgrounds. 

    And they probably already pay good money to accountants and lawyers as it is 😂 


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