Kit ideas I'd love to see from WGA/Asking Thoughts?


  • So, I sent some stuff on kits I'd like to see from WGA to them, and I got the reply that they thought they were interesting, but better suited for the forums to ask to raise interest for 'em. So, I may as well post 'em here to ask, would you buy these if Wargames Atlantic produced them?

    Plastic Kits:

    Scantily-Clad Drow Ladies- The kind with the metal lingerie and knives and so-on. But this is NOT FOR THE REASON YOU'D THINK! Or at least, not only that reason. It's because I like to make weird mutant hybrid kitbashes, those slender feminine parts are fun to add in there, but most sources of those sorts of parts tend to be expensive. So it'd be nice to have a budget option.

    In terms of stuff to add to the kit to have fun with it, one of my ideas would be maybe Succubus-y bits both for the sake of maybe making them into daemonette proxies and because the shared bodytype and dress sense would probably make tooling for them easy, tho I could also see that as an upgrade sprue.

    The other more extensive one is parts to make them cross-compatible with the spider kit to make driders, ala how that spider kit itself comes with saddles to have goblins ride 'em, or even just bits to replace their arms or heads with spider ones! Get some Pathfinder fleshwarping-y body horror into 'em!

    Old-School Demons- But a very specific type of old-school demon. Namely, ones inspired by the old-timey chimeric designs you'd see in the Dictionaire Infernal, the works of Heironymus Bosch, the works of the Breughels, a bunch of those paintings of The Temptation of St Anthony, ect. 

    I specify this because, while I respect the works of those companies, other budget demon kits like the ones from Frostgrave or for Kings of War are just so boring and standard, just run-of-the-mill hellspawn compared to the variety in Warhammer or even classic D&D. So, I figured, why not draw from the weird freakish assemblages you see in old-timey demon art to add a touch of uniqueness, that sort of surrealist nightmare vision of hell that everyone loves?

    Retro Robots- Big ol clunky dudes, ala Robby, Tobor, Gort, the Chopping Mall Robots, the Republic Robot, ect. I feel like the reason why these'd be cool is self-explanatory, and it'd be perfect for that new pulp line!

    Gynoids- ...Okay, I got nothing, this is in no small amount a horndog thing. But I think there's a lot of fun stuff you could do with it! Like, I could imagine a variety of different parts evoking different types of androids, from the art-deco-y Metropolis robot, to Hajime Sorayama's work, to the more abstract robot-y heads and pseudo-musculature you see in certain types of modern mecha-influenced gynoid art.

    In particular, ideally I'd love to have at least one monoeye head, if only so I could build my friend's OC Penny. Also it'd have to be designed to be cross-compatible with the Retro robot kit, because mixing and matching could lead to some really fun stuff.

    Animal-People Heads: Because, while there's some anthropomorphic creatures from other mini lines one can draw from for anthro-animal kitbashes, there's a lot that're missing or difficult to find at a scale that's cross-compatible with human-sized figures, and it'd be neat to have a wholeass  sprue of those for various customs.

    Big reason I'd want to see that tho: So I can mix them with the power armor from other miniature lines to make Battle Beast homages. Because everybody loves Battle Beasts!

    3d Printables (Because some things probably aren't viable for mass-production)

    Aeromorphs- if you're not familiar with the term, think an anthropomorphized biomechanical plane. It's a very popular Thing in certain spaces, usually where the venn diagram of "millitary history enthusiasts" and "furries who spend 4 digits on commissions" overlap, and most of the art of them is extremely not safe for work!

    But, I will say, I unironically like them as a creature design concept. I think there's something very New Weird about them, especially if you made them more monstrous; maybe taking design elements from Evangelion's Evas. Given the person who came up with the term (Tho, they noted the base idea was A Thing before that) is a biopunk artist, I think it makes sense!

    It's not that much more ridiculous than the model that's one big joke about the Great Emu War (which I love BTW, that will never not be funny)! If slimegirls can escape from horny-SF to non-horny mainline SF, I see no reason why they can't either! Speaking of which...

    Slimegirls- I just think you could do a lot of neat stuff with the sculpting there as a multipart kit, especially if you went for the less cheesecake-y route. A lot of fun ways to make gloopy drips. And they work well if printed in clear resin, and even if printed in opague resin they'd still work super well with greenstuff/apoxie sculpt! 

    Grotesque Posthumans- I'm thinking specifically of Death Fields for this one, but like, I feel like a range of designs taking after works like Man After Man and All Tomorrows would fit, and there's a lot of design space to work with there for troops. At the very least, one based on the Tommy Wiseau horse would be a really fun addition to Death Fields. Everybody loves the Tommy Wiseau horse!

    Halloween Bestiary Creatures!- Basically, a series of articles by Johnathan Wojcic (You'll need to scroll down a bit to get there) on various creatures concepts that keep showing up without being named, there's a lot of stuff to work with. I could easily see; say; a Junkin, a Hocus, a Pocus, a Corpse Candle, a Heebie Jeebies, ect working as some variety of seasonal gift model!

    So, thoughts on how viable these'd be? Any you'd want to see? Any you'd want to see but don't think could ever happen? I'm curious about what y'all think!



  • They're not spectacularly sexy, but have you seen Mantic's Succubuses? 


  • tbh regarding the drow, I honestly think there's a HUGE gap in the market regarding nude/semi-nude models that aren't super sexed-up. Tiny plastic people are people too, and sometimes people don't wear clothes, and that's okay! So long as they're not super graphic and lean towards an "idealized yet anatomically correct" look over "awooga breasts breasts breasts." This isn't just women, either: I opened my own thread recently regarding the bizarre lack of shirtless barbarian models on the market (still mad about that). I think scantily clad people of any gender expression would be a pretty great boon to the market, both as kitbash fodder and in their own right.

    Anyhow yeah you have my support, whatever that's worth.


  • @Thomas Johnson The Animal heads are something I have heard asks for before, I would like to see some anime style beastmen (human faces animal ears) heads as well if done.

    Drow ladies in skimpy outfits with horned human headswap for lady demons  would be cool and actually very useful despite some people's opinions, particularly if they don't look mannish or catlike in the face department (a failing many plastic female kits have). But I would rather have them in fur or leather lingerie instead of metal lingerie, more versatile setting and kitbash wise and far less done.

    "Old-School Demons" at this point in our wargaming circles probably means D&D or humaniod types with horns and tails for most folks. What your asking for might be better called Gothic or Renissiance, but it would likely be a lot harder to do as a multipart set.

    Retro robots are cool but any  non-human like robot kit in plastic would be cool and I blame GW and 40k still being thing as to why we don't have them but we do have cyberborg zombies. 

    As to gynoids/fembots, as someone raised in the SciFi community I am not sure why anyone finds chromplated robot ladies sexy, though used in horror they always seemed like a joke for the most part even the Hajime Sorayama's designs. That said I could see these being useful, particularly if they went in a Ghost in Shell direction in a Major way😉(pun intended).

     

     

     

     


  • if WGA pursues the animal heads route, i'd actually suggest they talk to Sally4th and look into getting plastic kits for the Albedo Combat Patrol game made. it could serve as a way to get that game into a wider market (much the way WGA's plastics did with the Quar) and no doubt it would be much easier sprucing up existing STL's than sculpting them entirely from scratch. and you could engineer the sprues to make it into a two sprue set up, with bodies on one sprue and an array of head and tail options on a 2nd sprue. the latter of which could easily be sold as a standalone upgrade kit.

     

    they also have medieval versions of the heads which could be used to adapt barons war, traitors toll, or other such kits to an anthromorphic form.


  • Aliens.

    Grey humanoid aliens with different head sculpts,hand positions(armed,unarmed).

    Handless weapons(no hand molded on some weapons)for use in kitbashing.

    Equipment.


  • The best kit they could do in my opinion would be a "general purpose equipment," and weapons sprue. People go to Victoria miniatures, Anvil Industry and buy extra GW kits for backpacks, grenades, weapon sights, and alternative weapons. 

    I think it would be a best seller for kitbashers if they included these items.

    Standard laser rifles

    Modern CQB style sights and long range sights 

    Shotguns / lead thrower rifles

    Grenades of several designs 

    Communication backpacks

    Medic equipment 

    Alternative helmets 

     

     


  • @John Smith GOD I would go berserk for that kinda of kit. I'm an avid KT kitbasher, and those are literally just 'all the bits I find myself short on constantly.' With that said, I'd also throw in silencers, combat knives, and pistols, all of which can be weirdly hard to find.


  • The biggest thing I see a place for are plastic "deep ones" from Lovecraft lore.

    I think Reaper minis do some decent ones, and the I really like the ones from carnevale - but some some nice multi pose, multi option deep ones would be great. (also, the 'Icthians' from Titan Quest, and the redesign in Titan quest 2 are pretty great)

    I could even see there being some room on the sprue for "hybrid head" options to convert normal humans into deep one hybrids, which could really give such a kit some legs.

    My hope is that stuff like this is what the 'Pulp' range is building towards, since they are a pulp era monster - but really big fish people would be useful for any era (Cohors cthulu anyone?) or just about any fantasy setting, not even directly lovecraft. (But then everything is * a little bit* Lovecraft nowadays, lol)


  • I'd like some fishy cultists, too, since WGA does an absolutely GORGEOUS digital cultist kit that's bird-themed. Cultist models are kinda like knights in that theres a million different ways you could go with it, so its hard to oversaturate the market. More fish!!!


  • I had a thread a while back talking about sprues of various styles of shoulder pads/pauldrons.  I'd buy the hell out of that! @John Smith I'd also buy the hoo-ha out of sprues of kitbashing gear!  I spent a healthy chunk of change (for me, anyway) on an Anvil Industries order that was mostly backpacks, pouches, and other bits, bobs, and doo-dads just for kitbashing and customizing.

    As for the OP: 1) I was quite happy not knowing Aeromorphs existed and 2) Mantic used to make a Dreadball team of robots that kinda fit your "chunky, old-school robot" perameters: the Ro-Tek Brutes.

    https://www.manticgames.com/news/dreadball-teams-spotters-guide/

    Really good-looking "generic sci-fi" robots.  I bought them to use with Five Parsecs from Home.  They're kinda tough to find, nowadays, though.  There's one set on ebay:

    https://ebay.us/m/iJ8DUv

     


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